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Health care bill debate hits boiling point

Posted Thursday, March 25, 2010, at 3:19 PM

The Great Health Care Reform Debate has reached the boiling point across the nation since President Obama signed the bill into law earlier this week.

Greene County is no different.

In chatting with some area folks since Tuesday's bill signing, it's obvious people are concerned. It's a hot topic at the morning breakfast gathering places.

Some are optimistic the reform will work out, but are concerned about how it will all be paid for ... meaning our country will go so far in debt we will never recover.

Others claim the reform is government finding a way to control more of our lives.

I know one business owner who believes it will ruin his business and many others because of the forced additional costs that go along with the president's plan.

I'll be honest: I hope it works the way President Obama says it will. Am I convinced that will happen? To be honest again, I'm not holding my breath.

This newspaper asked the question on its Web site: Do you agree with President Obama's new health care law?

The results (as of 12:30 p.m. on Thursday) are one-side: Yes: 21.1% and No: 78.9%

The following are a what some people had to say after voting:

* "Somebody has got to pay for it. The costs are bound to end up on the people who do have insurance. No one, including the president, truly knows what is in the bill. Many doctors and lawyers can not even understand what they have read of it. This country can not keep spending billions to make millions of dollars! The federal government has proven time and again that it is not capable of properly operating such a thing as health care. If it is such a good idea, why are so many intelligent people against it and why did it take so long and so many dollars simply to get it passed? Is there some reason we owe illegal people health care instead of removing them from the country? Is there some reason that a 25-year-old unemployed, non-school attending ... lazy people should still be on mommy's insurance?"

* "Heaven help us we are under ObamaNation and going down hill fast!"

* "This is crazy."

* "Give it a chance. Why don't those that are so against it provide alternatives. Congress should work together -- that's what the taxpayers are paying for."

As you can see, people are pretty passionate about the topic.

This newspaper published two stories in Thursday's edition chatting with a doctor, hospital administrator, and business owner about how the bill will change how they do business.

We'd like to share stories about people who have never been able to get medical insurance -- for whatever reason -- but will have it under President Obama's plan.

If you'd like to share your story, let me know.

Chris is the general manager/editor for the Greene County Daily World. He can be reached by telephone at 1-800-947-4487 or 847-4487 or by e-mail at cpruett79@hotmail.com .


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Alternatives have been offered by the Republicans. There is absolutely NO reason to trash the greatest Healthcare system in the world, when minor tweaks can be made. But, then again, this is not about healthcare but it is all about government control. Obama voters, how is that hope and change working for you now?

-- Posted by Over The Hill on Thu, Mar 25, 2010, at 8:19 PM

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/arti...

over the Hill:

The above link explains the myth about this being about government control. There is absolutely no truth to that at all.

To answer your question:

I'm pretty pleased with Obama. Such a vast improvement on either of the Bush's, Clinton, etc going back for years. He's a breath of fresh air, like the spring time. I rejoice in the change. So yes, the change is working just fine for me. Thanks for asking.

-- Posted by Queenie on Fri, Mar 26, 2010, at 6:42 AM

How can anyone be pleased with a radical like Obama?? He no more has America at heart than Saddam Hussain did. We should impeach this president and get someone in the White House who is a TRUE American! He only wants what Obama wants. He is selfcentered and does not care what the american people want. If he did then this Heath Care Plan would have been trashed from the beginning.

-- Posted by Scorpio1969 on Fri, Mar 26, 2010, at 1:26 PM

Personally I'm withholdiing judgement for the time being.

As the system currently stands, those of us with jobs and health insurance are paying quite a bit for those without. Either those without health insurance are being assisted by Medicaid, using bankruptcy as a means to take care of their health expenses, or are expecting free care that's most likely being subsidized by my tax dollars.

I'm all for making those people pay for their own health insurance instead of expecting my tax dollars to pay for their care. Frankly, I don't get the objection to requiring people who can afford health insurance to purchase it.

As for the 25 year old, lazy people on mommy's insurance - if their not on mommy's insurance, then they're probably just not going to pay their bills. That's going to wind up costing me in the long run either via tax dollars or higher health care costs.

I suppose the other option is just to cease treating everyone who can't afford to be treated. Is that a better option for those that so strongly oppose this plan?

-- Posted by RB on Fri, Mar 26, 2010, at 3:28 PM

So we just passed a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman said he didn't understand it, passed by a Congress that exempts themselves from it, signed by a President who smokes, with funds administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and.......................................... financed by a country that is broke.

Makes good sense to me.

-- Posted by hopeanddust on Fri, Mar 26, 2010, at 3:51 PM

Amen hopeanddust !!! Also, Princess Pelosi said that we had to pass the bill so that we could find out what is in it. John Dingel said that it takes time to control the people. Tom Harkin said that this bill is just a starter home. Etc, Etc .......

-- Posted by Over The Hill on Fri, Mar 26, 2010, at 10:09 PM

Seriously, if it is good enough for us,then it should be good enough for congress and the rest of government. Why should they get a deluxe package of healthcare???

-- Posted by hopeanddust on Sat, Mar 27, 2010, at 12:44 PM

John Dingel said that it takes time to control the people.

That sentence scares me the most. Folks its about transfer of wealth and power, just like Obama said he would do.

-- Posted by localyokal on Sat, Mar 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM

Dear Chris

This topic is timely and needs to explored by the public. Bravo ... however, please note I posted the following on John Coleman's Blog:

I think that between all the people involved in this conversation there should be something that appears to be a resolution or a discussion of the issues that actually face the community however this appears to be nothing more than more of the same that I dislike blogs for... wake me when you get something useful or positve.

NO need to respond I will read these blogs again at a later date to see if the other content has improved, but I appreciate your blog ...timely and focused debate. Thank you

Incorde Hominum Es Anima Legis

In the heart of Man is the Law

-- Posted by Incorde hominum es anima legis on Mon, Mar 29, 2010, at 1:46 PM

There is no time like the present. It is time for all of you drug store politicians to stand up, run for office, and deliver the solutions to all of our problems.

Health care reform is long overdue. Democratic President Johnson's Medicare was a good start. President Obama's health care reform act may not be perfect, but it can be tweaked and amended to serve us well.

-- Posted by Globe&Anchor on Tue, Mar 30, 2010, at 9:24 PM

This (healthcare reform) is just the first step for the president & the democrat congress. The fact that with this bill they slipped in the amendment taking over the college loan program was telling, too. What did that have to do with healthcare reform?

Next will be more control of the financial systems of this country.

Then, granting amnesty to illegals (to enlarge the democrat voting rolls).

After that the pay czar will enlarge his scope and ALL executive compensation (not just those companies receiving $$$ from the government) will be subject to scrutiny & then control; following that everyone's compensation will be set by the government.

I am guessing that most if not all of this can be accomplished before November. Then what can they loose? Nothing.

Control is the name of the game. We ARE Socialists and just aren't smart enough to know it. Obama won; we are lost.

-- Posted by vintner on Tue, Mar 30, 2010, at 10:17 PM

I am fine with it along as congress and the President agree to the same health care plan for themselves.

-- Posted by hopeanddust on Wed, Mar 31, 2010, at 9:15 AM

My student loan has been managed via the department of educations direct lending program for about a decade now. More straightforward and less overhead expenses.

Besides I believe the banks have proven quite well lately they can't manage themselves any better than the government.

-- Posted by RB on Wed, Mar 31, 2010, at 12:00 PM

to notgreenenative: black colleges ARE integrated. they are "historically black colleges", meaning they were founded for blacks, because they weren't allowed in white colleges. They were integrated decades ago.

As far as the whole, "congress has exempted itself" part of the health care bill. i'm not sure what this means. the health care bill says people have to have health insurance. congress has health insurance. how are they exempt???

-- Posted by corbinsa on Thu, Apr 1, 2010, at 10:01 AM


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