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Lacking Style and Class

Posted Sunday, February 22, 2009, at 8:57 AM

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I don't think Xavier recruited very well.
My good friend Joe Hart has written much about Class basketball and after reading his most recent article and the associated blog responses, I suddenly had an epiphany. I don't get too many of these, thank goodness, because they weigh heavily upon a brain which has been over taxed for way too many years. Joe is a proponent for Class basketball and I honor his opinion because he is definitely entitled to one. Many others miss the old Single Class or no class system of the older days and I would say that I have probably been a silent member of this group all along...until now. I shall be silent no more. I shall climb to the mountaintop to shout out the praises of a no class system. That, in itself, would be a rather dumb idea, since we don't have any mountains close enough by for anyone to hear me after I got there. SO I SHALL SHOUT FROM HERE, no I hate it when people do that. OK, I'll just keep my mouth shut and go along with the crowd.

Some of the responses to Joe's article touched on the advantage given to Church Schools because of their ability to recruit. This is the point that triggered the previously mentioned painful epiphany. Various people have argued that these Church Schools are not prevented from recruiting good players into their school systems. Others have stated that the reasons for young lads and lasses attending these Church Schools is their superior academics and not because of athletics. For whatever the reason, it has become rather obvious to this casual observer that an advantage has been taken by the Church Schools, whether intentional or not.

When the idea of creating separate classes for athletics was born, it was necessitated because of the numerical odds advantage that bigger schools had over smaller schools. With the acknowledgement now of a recruiting advantage by the Church Schools, I can think of no other resolution than to create a separate Class for these Church Schools. I thought that I should address the natural evolution to this point in our society, but it is probably best to leave evolution out of this topic for now.

Maybe we should just eliminate public schools and let the churches educate the masses. Then we could eliminate the government interference into our educational process. I seem to have read a lot lately about our State and Federal governments becoming too much involved with public school systems and this may be a way to correct that situation.

I think I've come across a good idea here. We could even have an Atheist Class, maybe even an Agnostic Class of basketball.

I can just see it now...the Bogle Corner Baptists winning their first Sectional title as they knock off the Howesville Hymn Masters in overtime.

The only thing that I have learned from writing this (and I try to learn something from everything I do anymore), is the fact that this chair is extremely uncomfortable. I must make an attempt to find a more agreeable chair to write from, because I do believe that it is having somewhat of a deleterious affect on my mind.

"As for me, give me comfort first, and style afterwards."

- Mark Twain - "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court"


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I've often thought about making a class/tournament for the church schools, but then again I think you run into the issue of pitting a school like Holy Cross up against a school like Roncalli or Cathedral.

-- Posted by EggMan on Sun, Feb 22, 2009, at 9:31 AM

I'll just assume it an oversight, but you failed to mention the greatest of all advantages the church schools have over public schools.

God.

It has been proven that those who pray before a free throw are 27% more likely to make the shot.

It is of no coincidence that Shaquille O'Neal dismissed the idea of an omniscient supernatural long before his basketball career commenced.

-- Posted by GarthHudson on Sun, Feb 22, 2009, at 2:49 PM

If you're talking class basketball titles there have been plenty of them. Lafayette Central Catholic has won three class A basketball titles. Ft Wayne Luers, a Catholic school, was the 2A champion last year. Since the inception of the multi-class basketball tournament there have been a total of eight religious schools win a class title.

http://tnyhistory.homestead.com/files/bo...

I'm guessing that the number is much, much higher if you look at the football titles amongst the different classes.

-- Posted by EggMan on Sun, Feb 22, 2009, at 9:49 PM

They already tried that with the tournament of champions and it failed miserably. The only way to recapture the magic of the IHSAA tournament is to go back to a single class. If you want to give all the schools a chance then have some kind of class tournament over Christmas break and then have the regular single class tournament at the end of the season. I could be wrong, but I believe Kentucky does something similar.

-- Posted by EggMan on Mon, Feb 23, 2009, at 8:53 AM

A class for private/church schools would never happen. But, here is an idea. All private/church schools should have to play in a higher class come tourney time. Ex: A 1A school would have to play in the 2A sectionals/regionals,etc. I think that would help level the playing field a little. Still trying to figure out what to do with the private schools that are already in the biggest class...

-- Posted by Minerfan on Mon, Feb 23, 2009, at 12:28 PM

Ol Sam would be proud of you Simmons,just the kind of humor he would have enjoyed. At first I thought it could have been written by him. First rate article. Love the names of the schools, and of course the overtime,great wrap up, which appears to be a strong part of your articles, well thought out and planned.For students could you tell us if you use outlines, or just wing it, whatever you use, stay with it, it works well.But for the students just say outlines help greatly. Great quote, from a good book, I wish you could get many people to read that book.

-- Posted by oracle granite on Mon, Feb 23, 2009, at 1:40 PM

Oracle, If I'm researching something of historical note, I tend to create an outline to go by, more often than not. On short pieces like these, which often hit me on the spur of the moment, I shall normally just write it, proofread it a couple of times for spelling and grammar and then post it.

I am amused at times when people take my comments so seriously, evidently I should preface my comments with a notice of my satirical intent. The various comments that I receive, whether insouciant or somber, however, are received with equivalent appreciation.

I don't have the talent nor the desire to write specific material for the expressed intent of providing pleasure for all readers. I write because I enjoy doing so and if others appreciate what I write, then I have received an unintended bonus for my efforts.

Don't you wonder what James Naismith would think of our discussions about his game. Just a little game that he whipped up at a YMCA to help control some unruly boys. Now I've just dribbled some oatmeal down the front of my shirt while I was typing, so I'm going to quit before I get called for double-dribbling...oh, they don't call that anymore do they?

-- Posted by simmons on Mon, Feb 23, 2009, at 5:02 PM

I read articles like this and I remember a time in my youth when it really meant something for a team like the mid 80's L&M to make it to the state finals. They and another small team from Indiana inspired one of the greatest sports films of all times for goodness sake. It also reminds me of a Bloomfield, WRV or Shakamak team making it into the Semi-State and potentially winning a game. I remember the backing that team received from, not only the home town, but the whole county. I remember the rivalry that it provoked, right down to the end of the season, with a sectional win or loss. It is that nostalgic feeling that I believe gets lost when a small team cannot measure themselves up with the rest of the State in a winner take all tournament. A single class tournament that results in one winner. A winner that is heralded throughout the year, state wide, and a slew of local teams that are remembered, however far they made it, in the community for the contribution they made by being a representative of an area, small as it may be, to the great game of basketball.

Double dribble...one of the many nuances of the once wonderful game of basketball that have been lost since referees have decided the game is about them.

Another topic for another time I guess.

You forgot about Mt. Nebo! There are a few people out there who might hear you!

-- Posted by Indymac4 on Mon, Feb 23, 2009, at 7:26 PM

(Weary and worn, Quixote can no longer climb Mt. Nebo) "To be heard, perchance to be heard, and what meaning of this, if not to be understood and believed, my dear Sancho. I have not the heart nor the depth of motivation to fight the unbeatable foe." (Said very softly) "Dulcinea, Dulcinea...as I could see basketball and so loved the game...no it is not true, the game, it is not there...(in his travels, Quixote had never seen so much travelling, as he now sees in basketball) like my Dulcinea, no one can see her for who she is, save for you, my friend Sancho."

I'm afraid the folks of Indiana have made their bed with this blanket of Class and they shall have to sleep with it. Sorry, I just watched Man of La Mancha again and Peter O'Toole got me inspired and it is getting late, oh so late and I do not feel well at all.

"Not well? What is illness to the body of a knight-errant? What matter wounds? For each time he falls, he shall rise again, and woe to the wicked." No, not this knight-errant, he is too tired and I'm off to bed, good night.

-- Posted by simmons on Mon, Feb 23, 2009, at 11:02 PM

They are taking walk-ins at the Shawnee this summer! Very Nice!

-- Posted by Indymac4 on Tue, Feb 24, 2009, at 6:50 AM

You know who I miss here? b Ball fan. Suppose he has gone unplugged on us?

Keith, you ol' romantic you. No one can see those windmills for what they really are, save for you, my inspiring friend, save for you.

-- Posted by hopeanddust on Tue, Feb 24, 2009, at 7:53 PM

Was that just over-the-counter medication you were on, or something stronger?

-- Posted by Chris&Jeremy'sDad on Tue, Feb 24, 2009, at 8:43 PM

Simmons I just spent three months playing the part of Sancho Panza in a play and I thought it was out of my mind for a while, and here it is right in front of me again. Yes I was type cast; and illiterate, bumbling follower, kool-aid drinker, with homespun philosophical sensibilities. Thanks Hope. B ball fan was banned on this site for steroids, I guess, it was in large Red letters across the bottom of my monitor. It caught me off guard. They have let me back with a different name, unless they (whoever they are) find out it is me again. I do miss your comments, Hope. Do not tell anyone it is me.

To the point, thanks Simmons for answering the question about the method you use for writing well. You would not be a good politician, your answers are too clear, transparent, they are calling it these days. Candor is out of fashion, haven't you heard.

I am volunteer substitute teaching here in Oracle and I will bring this to the attention of my students, as a practice in telling the truth, and as a way to demonstrate the methods of excellence in writing for an audience. Thanks for the funny article, with just enough of an undercurrent of truth to allow me to be thinking and chuckle a bit at what you have written. This is what I call following the rules, or traditions of quality. You have suited up against the greatest, Ol Sam, and played him to overtime.Just can not get that overtime out of my mind. This is a plea for no "class" writing.

-- Posted by oracle granite on Wed, Feb 25, 2009, at 10:49 AM

No wonder I was thinking you, oracle granite-you're here. You've petrified nicely I might add. Namaste'. Hope the winter is being good to you and yours. All is well enough here in my little slice of awareness.

Sancho's a hero's hero.

-- Posted by hopeanddust on Wed, Feb 25, 2009, at 6:59 PM

I think Ol Simmons could win awards for playing Falstaff.

-- Posted by Wiglund on Wed, Feb 25, 2009, at 8:08 PM

Aye, much akin to the awards won by Wiglund for drinking Falstaff.

-- Posted by simmons on Wed, Feb 25, 2009, at 9:22 PM

Winter is over, it snowed here, twice. Of course it snowed the day I had to go to Indianapolis. The desert is beautiful when it snows and a lot of people come up here to this mountain to take pictures. They have to get here early because by the time Church is over the snow is gone. Sancho Panza, the chubby squire.

-- Posted by oracle granite on Thu, Feb 26, 2009, at 1:59 AM

You guys are a hoot. I needed to wake up to this this morning.

-- Posted by hopeanddust on Thu, Feb 26, 2009, at 6:46 AM

"The best way to cheer yourself up is to try to cheer somebody else up." Mark Twain

"Nowadays, a young gal will label a good looking man she eyes as being "hot". As for me, I'll settle for being a "hoot", old age and gravity having bought me one too many vowels." Ol' Simmons

-- Posted by simmons on Fri, Feb 27, 2009, at 4:56 AM

hey keith, nice read. if your still receiving comments on this blog i have been interested in knowing the history on this picture. i was wondering if you knew where this was taken at and who the players are in it? i also like history but can never imagine becoming as good at remembering it as you are.. too many dead brain cells in past.

-- Posted by hot_rod.willy on Sat, Mar 14, 2009, at 11:17 AM


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