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Roe vs. Wade --38 years later; Ubelhor files pro-life bill in the General AssemblyPosted Friday, January 21, 2011, at 2:33 PM
Saturday marks the 38th anniversary of the U.S. Supreme Court decision which legalized abortion on demand throughout all nine months of pregnancy.
In Roe vs. Wade, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a woman has the constitutional right to have an abortion for any reason up until the "point at which the fetus becomes 'viable,' " defining viability as the potential "to live outside the mother's womb, albeit with artificial aid." Le's pause and remember the thousands of unborn who have lost their lives before ever taking a single breath outside their mother's wombs. It's not a political opinion, but a moral one that abortion is wrong. Last year's passage of ObamaCare with its potential funding of abortion has galvanized pro-life advocates, which was evident in the recent elections that saw many new pro-lifers elected at both the national and state level. We are encouraged to report that newly elected District 62 State Rep. Matt Ubelhor (R-Bloomfield) is one of those pro-life advocates. He has introduced a bill in the Indiana General Assembly that needs to be supported by all of us who want to protect the rights of the unborn and pray America will wake up and do what is right. Ubelhor's House Bill 1205 has completed its first reading and is now in the House committee on Public Policy. The bill prohibits state agencies from entering contracts with or making grants to any entity that performs abortions or maintains or operates a facility where abortions are performed. It cancels state funding or federal funds administered by the state for any current contracts with or grants to any entity that performs abortions or maintains or operates a facility where abortions are performed. It will become effective on passage. We'll be keeping our eye on this bill and be hoping it gains passage. Education Another bill that Ubelhor and District 60 State Rep. Peggy Welch (D-Bloomington) has co-authored is House Bill No. 1208. In a nutshell, the bill would require Indiana school corporations to establish a dress code. The bill has completed first reading and is now in the House Committee on Education. The bill would amend Indiana Code concerning education to require a school corporation to establish written discipline rules: which must include a graduated system of discipline; and may include appropriate dress codes; and which may include, if applicable, an agreement for court assisted resolution of school suspension and expulsion cases for the school corporation. The bill would also give general publicity to the discipline rules within a school where the discipline rules apply by actions such as making a copy of the discipline rules available to students and students' parents; or delivering a copy of the discipline rules to students or the parents of students. I also think this is a good law and clarifies for students, parents and those in the community exactly what the discipline and dress code rules are for a school district. Nick is assistant editor for the Greene County Daily World. He can be reached by telephone at 847-4487 or 1-800-947-4487; by e-mail at schneider.nick@gmail.com . Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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Perhaps people should try to educate and inform people of their views instead of trying to make more laws. I fully support Indiana's ability to make abortion laws (as opposed to the federal government) but I do not support the idea. I have not read House Bill 1205, and from the context you put it in, it sounds like it will make all abortions scarce (not illegal like some might think), including possibly medically relevant abortions. I know that I am more than competent enough to make medical decisions for myself, and do not need the state doing it for me.
If people are against abortion, then don't have one.
I agree with pulsewidth, noone is forcing anyone to get an abortion. If you think it is wrong, then don't get one but don't ruin the lives of us who want one or want that choice because you think it's wrong. Eighteen years ago an abortion saved my life and I don't regret it one bit and never will. I wouldn't be where I am today. Instead I would be sharing a child with a man who was physically abusive and a cheater. I would still be trying to save my child from living a lifestyle I feel was and is unacceptable and you would think was unacceptable too. We used other protection but things happen and I ended up pregnant anyway. I didn't know he was going to ever get physical with me until after I was pregnant. I don't regret my decision. Please think about what you're saying and doing. It's a choice I want to keep because I know my aborted child was saved from living a life of hell and so was I!!
I am strongly opposed to abortion unless it would result in the death of the mother or the baby would be born in such a state that it would be kinder for the baby to be aborted. Obviously, I am also strongly opposed to our tax dollars being spent on abortions and I did not vote for Obama for that very reason (among others). Why are the mother's rights more important than the baby's rights? Both are human. Just because the baby can't speak yet, does that mean we should make a decision for him/her? It just makes me sick to my stomach to think of all these lives being lost. Babies that could eventually (if placed in loving homes) be productive members of society and make a difference.
I too am against abortions. The present law allows more and more teen abortions and other problems.
when it comes to dress codes in school and discipline I agree and I also believe the parents are responsible for teaching disapline at home with no excuses. I have been told that a grandparent bought atvs for his grandchildren that are under age and turned them loose on county roads which is against the law only to be told the grandparent lived in the area too long to be told what to do. This is an example of parents and grandparents not willing to teach our kids right from wrong and the resposibility of child protection. Example of not being responsible is a few deaths of kids driving atvs recently.
Great job, Representative Ubelhor!!!
There is no way our tax money should be used for killing a baby (45 million babies).
How about abstinance folks?
No conception, no baby, no STD's, no emotional scars...just maturity.
Keep up the great work!
I am for abstinance until marriage. Won't that work for people? Are we really needing to test drive a potential spouse to make the decision to love them. I don't think so. Love is a decision not lust.
If someone has an "unfortunate choice" of creating another human, then they should take responsibility for their actions, If they can't raise the child due to immaturity, drugs, money, wife beating or whatever excuse, then put the child up for adoption. My sister waited three years for an adoption. God must have known she wasn't going to be here long as she died shortly after that at age 36.
America has lost her morals. Abortion is the Muslims number one reason they disrespect America...how sad that these true wife beaters and decapitators look at us as immoral due to baby killing!
EGM, we're hanging in there, by an icicle, how about you and yours?
dhobbs - Who said I didn't leave him??? I did leave him. A MOTHER CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH THOUGH!!! Whether you like it or not the law was and is on his side unless somebody can PROVE he did something wrong. Knowing something is going on and PROVING it are two different things. I am educated enough to know that I did NOT want my child to be alone with this man after I left him. I know the law, the father has rights. I'd never have been able to prove he shouldn't have contact with that child. Adoption might have been an option but HE would have never have allowed me to give that child up for adoption. I did the right thing.
I also know the oldest child this man has now (with another woman) is a juvenile delinquent. The father has been abusive to him, has dumped him off at grandma's cause he didn't want to deal with him, was showing him porn at age 3 and thought it was funny, and has had no concern for the childs education since he was born. I'm really glad I didn't keep his child. BTW, you are supporting his kid with your tax dollars... You're not supporting the one I aborted!!! I did the right thing!!!
The only one who needs serious help is you for being so mean and nasty... You do the gene pool a favor and stop having sex. There are enough mean nasty people on this planet already! And it might be a real good idea if you didn't call me selfish and uncaring because you don't know me. I have helped more children in my lifetime than you will ever even look at!! I have given to the poor, extended my hand and my home to anyone who needed it, and I would give you the last speck of food in my house if you were hungry. How dare you call me uncaring and selfish?
I grew up with an alcoholic father who was abusive and with a mother who couldn't leave him because she decided to keep me. I knew exactly what I was in for if I kept that child and I wasn't about to put my child through what I had to go through the first 18 years of my life. You can say what I did was so horrible; but I saved that baby from a horrible childhood and I don't regret it for one minute.
While some may choose abortion, I do not. I do not want my tax money spent on them. I do not want to aid in killing babys. This law does just that, it takes the tax money away from it, it does not stop it. Wish it did.
Again you assume to know information you do not know. Who said I chose to have sex with this man??? Or how old I was?? or any other circumstances. I never said he beat me. You assumed that because I said he was physically abusive. There are other types of physically abusive than beating a woman.
I haven't convinced myself of anything. I know... I'm not going to justify anymore explanation to you because you aren't worth my time, but it doesn't take a a genius to know the law. Cops can't do anything about actions they can't prove. Check it out, it's not a big secret with anyone on the police force.
You sling your words around like you're all big and bad; but what it really comes down to is you didn't have to carry that child and be responsible for it the rest of its life. I guess it does speak volumes for me. It speaks volumes about how responsible I was to do the right thing for my child. You trying to lay some guilt trip on me 18 years after the fact is a bunch of BS, because I don't see it as dirty laundry. There are times in life when abortion is necessary. My situation was one of those times.
But YOU need to learn it's not okay to judge others when you haven't had to be where they have been. Your judgement without knowing all the facts speaks volumes about YOU!! That you just want to be right and you're still a mean, nasty person, who obviously can't give their opinion about a subject without attacking others. You don't know anything about me, stop assuming you do...
Thanks, Matt, for staying faithful to your committment.
Okay sure that's what all of us want. More government control. Why is it usually a MAN who wants to make the decision of how a woman is to act with regards to child bearing? Give me a break! Abstinence? That is a joke. That is not how a lot of you got here :) I can personally name four or five people who were "premature" babies. And they are in their sixties, seventies or older. You need to seek out some of those horror stories about women being mamed or left sterile from back room abortions. All repeal would do is drive it underground. Shame on you Cow!
Roe vs. Wade is the law of the land, period. These issues are far too complex to permit a moralistic decree on the subject. Abstinence doesn't work, the majority of people (upwards of 90%) have pre-marital and unprotected sex.
Cutting off public funding for it simply creates a class of those who can afford it and those who cannot. Those who cannot will still try it, but will use unsafe methods, leading to deaths, etc. Right or wrong, moral or not, disgust and horror or not, that will be the result - girls will die. It happens in all areas that attempt to outlaw abortion. It doesn't work; people still exercise their choice.
If you do not believe the above is true, then you have not studied the statistics or had a heart-to-heart conversation with medical professionals. Abortions existed in this country long before Roe vs. Wade existed.
It is a choice, each person and family exercises their choice. The libertarian view is for personal rights, not state intervention. This is the difference between the religious right and conservative libertarianism.
Abstinence is a pie in the sky approach. It isn't realistic. I doubt anyone could go down the family line and find no cases of shotgun marriages or pregnancies out of wedlock. Just because people feel they can discuss it openly in this day and age...doesn't make a new thing.
The truth is education(which should start at home, but often times it does not) is the best policy. We have to encourage abstinence because it is the best policy for kids, but prepare them to be responsible before a pregnancy occurs. Work toward the best decision, prepare them for the youthful decision.
As for Roe vs. Wade, it is so much more than abortion. It is widely used for any case involving choice and your body. It could be a slippery slope without it.
HB1205 does not stop "choice". It does stop use of tax money for it. I do not want MY money spent on it, so I support it.
Reproductive and disease education -Yes
Adoption -Yes
Accountability-Yes
Abortion-No
Folks, to say we can't control our sexuality is ridiculous. It reminds me of the Planet of the Apes movies when they were all standing around grunting like animals. Have we sunken so low that we are non-thinking, non-responsible animals that just go around breeding knowing that we can kill our babies as a form of birth control?
Grow up people and be adults with your adult bodies. If you are in a relationship that depends on sex, then you really have no relationship at all. Get a different person that respects your body and your wishes. If they don't then get a new boy/girlfriend. Sex should be for the person you have married. Problem solved.
dhobbs, well-spoken!
It should be Pro Choice! No one should have the right to tell you that you have to be a mom or have a child, its the persons body, sorry. I agree there should be a cut off date like after the first trimester or very shortly after but, thats it!! We are not judge and jury of peoples decisions. that is up to a higher authority, not us. So if we take the decision away and a young girl is raped, she will have to carry the baby of a rapiest, maybe even someone related to her's baby for 9-10 months. thats not fair, and what if she does drugs or drinks, stuff that will hurt the baby, then its born with problems and doesnt have a normal life? thats not fair to the baby. So get off your high horses and take a step in someone elses shoes before you start to think you can be the one to decide someone elses future. You cant! And if you make exceptions, whos decision is it to determine which reasons are o.k. and which are not?? We cant do it. Not our call.
hdobbs, you like to throw the word " convenient" around alot. No one ever said having an abortion is " convenient " thats a poor word to use. Just saying.
I find it confusing to witness a society where a dog being beaten gets more outrage than a living human being aborted. I am glad I live in a country where I can change a law I find morally reprehesible. I am free to do this, just as you are free to oppose me doing it. I will get rediculed for my beliefs, but then at least I can say I stood for something when I meet my maker. He is the only person I will have to answer to on how I conducted myself while here on earth. "bHobbs" not "dHobbs" :)
First off, I know this is a change of subject, but how do the pro-lifers feel about stem cell research?
I am all for adult stem cell research.
I wonder what the pro-deathers feel?...oh, sorry, pro-CHOICERS.
Since most agree abortion just to have one is Murder, so is ATVs driven by underage children suicide and providing them for kids is child neglect as well as not teaching them the law.