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Joe Lucas turned out OK after his 10 lashes with leather whip

Posted Monday, October 24, 2011, at 4:20 PM

A couple months back, in the Aug. 1 edition, I wrote a column about spanking and referred to an Evansville Courier story that made mention of a then-14-year-old Linton boy.

It was small item in the 75 years ago column dating back to 1936.

The article read: "Joe Lucas, 14, of Linton, took 10 lashes with a leather whip today as punishment for his third conviction for petty larceny. He pleaded guilty to having stolen 10 sacks from a mill.

"Given a choice between a jail sentence and a licking, he took the latter, which was administered by his father."

I mentioned in the column that dishing out "lashes" does sound a bit harsh on the surface, but it does illustrate the importance of discipline. A local judge realized that fact and probably saved young Joe Lucas from a more serious life of crime in his future.

I stated in the column that I didn't know if the Joe Lucas in this story is still alive or not. He would be about 95 now.

Well, on Thursday afternoon I received a telephone call from Joe Lucas' younger sister -- Wilma Lee Smith, who lives in Greenfield near Indianapolis.

Smith, who's in her 80s, explained to me that a cousin, Jean Burch, who lives in the Greene County area, had recently mailed her a copy of my column.

Smith wanted to let me know that Joe Lucas turned out to be just fine after his spanking ordeal, which made newspapers across the state.

Joe Lucas died in 1994.

She explained that former Linton mayor Dr. E.V. Bull was also the judge who dished out the sentence to young Joe Lucas of 10 lashes.

"He (Joe) was very mischievous ... he was always getting into things," Wilma Lee told me with a laugh, "But he turned out to be a great guy."

His sister said Lucas went to become a successful businessman in the Livingston, Texas area -- owning a restaurant at a resort for many years.

He was also active in Trinity Masonic Lodge No. 14 and attained the highest position of Worshipful Master twice -- a position similar to president of any other organization.

The Linton native also loved to travel the country on his motorcycle and had visited 44 of the 50 states on his cycle going to the oldest Masonic Lodge building in each state, according to his younger sister.

Wilma Lee said she just wanted to let the people in the Greene County area know that her older brother was a very good citizen in his community and that the whipping he received years earlier didn't hurt him at all.

That was some wonderful news to receive.

I guess the whippings that I and many others received growing up weren't such a bad thing.

I'm not sure a "time out" would have gotten my attention when I was growing up like the sting from a fresh-cut maple tree switch did when it left a red spot on my legs when my mother used it as the rod of correction on me.

Thanks Wilma Lee for sharing with me news about your older brother.

Nick is the assistant editor for the Greene County Daily World. He can be contacted by telephone at 847-4487 or by email at schneider.nick@gmail.com .

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EGM I agree with you to an extent, I was also spanked but I can honestly say that I have the utmost respect for my parents. I spanked my own child one time, also, I really didn't feel the need to get the childs attention in that way at any other time, we used a bad chair, it worked! (you would have thought that the child got a spankin the way the child carried on) the bad chair alway's worked for me. I often wonder if it would have worked better when I was growing up had they used that method and would I have learned the lesson's that were trying to be taught to me, don't back talk, don't ride the mini bike when told not to,,, the list goes on and on as to why I was spanked but, would I have learned a lesson better with the bad chair? in some instances I do believe I would have, in others, I needed a spankin

I had parents though who did not go overboard who knew how to control themselves now day's I see parents and know instantly I wouldn't want them spanking because they wouldn't know when to stop and then it would be abuse.

In our schools they don't paddle, at home they don't spank, I look around and see alot of children who are diagnosed with disorders and wonder if they were disiplined would they have gotten to the point that they needed med...just something to ponder...

The Bible clearly states to parents to spare not the rod, the way that I interpit that is, spank your children. I do not interpit it to beat your children.

-- Posted by lillymae on Wed, Oct 26, 2011, at 11:06 AM

"There are two Americas out there for young students right now -- one where they go to school knowing that they'll be guided positively by caring adults, and one where they live in constant fear of getting beaten," said Rep. McCarthy, a member of the Committee on Education and Workforce.

Paddling is Bullying, Outlaw It, Says U.S. Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy, who introduced a federal bill to ban corporal punishment in American schools for the second time (Died in Congress 2010) on September 22, 2011.

"Bullying is enough of a problem among students; the teachers shouldn't be doing it, too. There's nothing positive or productive about corporal punishment," McCarthy said on her House website.

The bill would ban paddling, spanking and all other forms of physical pain as punishment of students K-12.

Presidential Candidate, Texas Governor Perry signed HB 359 and N.C. Governor Perdue signed SB 498 giving parents the RIGHT to Prohibit Pain to Punish their Children in Schools days ago!

Corporal Punishment in public schools is legal in the 19 states, including Indiana, and is discriminatorily applied to boys, african american, disabled and low income students!

Punishment Injuries to America's schoolchildren and Federal Lawsuits are REAL!

Search "A Violent Education" for disturbing facts!

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-- Posted by KidsRpeople2 on Thu, Oct 27, 2011, at 9:47 AM

Two options for discipline in our schools that sound brilliant:

1.) Institute Hammurabi's "eye for an eye" code. Oh you knocked out a kid's teeth? Open wide!

2.) Seek permission from the Raper family to get some of Ralph's DNA and just put clones of Mr. Raper in our state's schools. If you misbehaved on his watch, you were either insane, suicidal, or just really STUPID.

-- Posted by YrYngrSibling on Thu, Oct 27, 2011, at 5:00 PM

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