Changes may be coming to the Blooomfield Town Park

Tuesday, September 2, 2008

There may soon be new rules for those who play, gather and hang out at Bloomfield's Town Park.

If the town park board has its way, three additions would be made to the current town ordinance pertaining to the park.

Linda Pullen, Bloomfield' Park Board president, provided a list of recommended changes for the park during the town council's Tuesday meeting.

The changes include:

* Setting park hours from 7:30 a.m. to 11:30 p.m.

* Any pets within the park should be leashed and pet owners must clean up any waste left behind by their pets or a $25 fine can be imposed.

* No person shall discharge any firearm or have possession of any firearm within park limits excluding all law enforcement officials and those organizations using firearms for special ceremonial purposes.

The recommended changes come from current complaints about a certain group of teens who hang out near the Jones Shelter, she said.

Recently, Pullen has received phone calls concerning foul language, loud music, trash, underage smoking and other disrespectful behavior from some of the teens.

"Can we please have our local police patrol more often and walk the park more often," she asked."I want everyone to use the park...including those teens.."

But, they need to respect public property, she added. If they cannot, their parents need notified and they need removed from the park.

Council member Aaron Hamm questioned if the amendments could easily be enforced.

"I just want to know how they will be enforced," he added.

Local resident, Don Swango, also voiced his concern over the firearm issue.

"I have a gun. I have a gun permit. If I carry a gun do I have to put it in the car when going to the park?," he said." I think you're overstepping your bounds."

Pullen once again stressed establishing park hours would help with the problems.

She also noted Linton's Humphreys Park has established hours.

Bloomfield Town Marshal Kenny Tharp also spoke up.

"Number one there is no curfew in Indiana...we're not parents," he said.

As for set hours, he also noted a possible problem when it comes to those who use the park facilities in the early morning hours.

Council Member Roger Doane said, "I don't see how you can close the park."

After discussing the matter, town attorney John Rowe suggested researching the matter a bit further and then bringing it to the table for public comment.

Doane agreed and said, "You beat me to the punch."

Council president Jo Ann Carmichael was absent from the meeting.

Doane noted that she was on vacation.

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  • I agree, being from Bloomfield I understand that they have no place to go and nothing else to do, but there should be hours set on the park, why would anyone need to be in the park after 11:30 anyways? I dont think she is saying close the park, but from midnight to even 5 in the morning, how many people are actually in the park that are using it for good.

    -- Posted by bloommom on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 7:09 AM
  • I have a seen a lot of kids playing basketball after 12. I think they really need to consider that most kids dont tear up the equipment and that a little more patrol will help. Keep the bad apples out of the park and let the other kids enjoy what they can of Bloomfield.

    -- Posted by whocares on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 7:43 AM
  • The Linton Park closed hours are from 12 p.m. to 4 a.m. They have a lot of early morning walkers. To set your opening hour to 7:30 a.m. is a bit late for people to excerise in the summer, for they like to get out while its cool.

    -- Posted by ljg47 on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 9:19 AM
  • to put hours on the park is ridiculous i mean give me a break. if you have some teenagers that are being disrespectful maybe someone ought to take it up with the parents I know that's what would have been done when i was a teenager hanging out in the park. Bettet yet be the adult that you are and go say something yourself let them know your not happy with the way they are acting and ask if they could please tone it down you don't have to be rude when asking. I can understand fining someone for littering in the park for this is a PUBLIC place and for that one should use the trash cans provided to them.

    -- Posted by blfdhilltop on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 9:28 AM
  • Trampling on the rights of law abiding citizens, and the recent ruling of the Supreme Court upholding the second ademend to the United Staes Constitution, with thr rule prohibiting guns in the park, are just plain wrong.

    Do you people have your head in the sand??

    Gun free zones are EXACTLY, what most criminals look for. As they know, they will not meet any armed resistance to their efforts.

    My 96 year old Grandpa told me that back before any gun laws or rules were in place, that socieity in general was more polite. I asked why that was, and he said it was because almost everyone packed a gun.

    An armed society is a safe society.

    -- Posted by whitetail2 on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 11:50 AM
  • OK say you take it upon yourself to confront the gang of teenagers or teenager..and they decide that they dont like what you are telling them and decide well we dont have to listen to you and take a swing..what then?! Are we allowed to defend ourselves or would the adults be brought up on assult charges..after all the kids arent going to snitch on each other!

    What I am saying is..if you decide to say something..DONT DO IT ALONE..make sure you have an adult there with you. I wouldnt confront a group of teenagers these days by myself!

    -- Posted by rwkem on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 12:05 PM
  • What's ridiculous is that there are teens in the park after midnight, that is insane.

    Why in the world aren't they at home, in bed and why would parents allow this be begin with.

    You can't tell me they are in the park after midnight because they want to play basketball.

    Parents need to start being parents and take care of their kids like they should be taken care of. Allowing kids to be out all night is sickening.

    Grow up people!

    People keep complaining that there is nothing for kids to do - what in the world do they need to be doing in the middle of the night? What - keep them out all night and then they sleep all day - what kind of parenting is that?

    You had them - take care of them!

    -- Posted by outofthisworld on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 12:09 PM
  • * No person shall discharge any firearm or have possession of any firearm within park limits excluding all law enforcement officials and those organizations using firearms for special ceremonial purposes.*

    The State of Indiana has permits allowing individuals the right to carry handguns for personal protection. Is the town of Bloomfield upholding our State Constitution.

    -- Posted by Hoosiertick on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 12:33 PM
  • People use the PUBLIC parks to excercise every morning...where if the park is "closed" are they expected to walk safely?? On the streets?

    The one thing that really stikes a nerve with me over the new rules is the ban on firearms.

    First a couple of questions:

    Is it/has it been a problem in the park?

    What would happen if God forbid someone was to be attacked in the park, the law abiding gun carrying citizen would not be able to defend themselves, or the victim for that matter, then what, hope someone has a cell phone and call for help. While waiting, we can just watch the attacker run away...that'll work out real well don't you think?

    Who is Bloomfield to over rule the STATE of Indiana who has alredy done the necessary background check on me and other citizens and said it was alright for us to carry a weapon for personal protection??? Does the Bloomfield Park Board have say so over MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS??

    Is Bloomfield going to have a cop there to protect us 24/7 (or when their park is open..LOL)? They want to take away my right to protect myself, and if that is the case, well, then I want protection there while I am.

    As for the unruley park visitors, yes, they need to be dealt with, I agree. The park is/was a PUBLIC place and we should all have respect for other visitors. If it is underage children causing the problems, contact the parents!!!! If they won't do anything, then take it a step farther....citations, fines, community service...

    But to let a couple of bad apples ruin the whole thing for everyone...that is ridiculous!!

    More rules and laws will NEVER be effective if the CURRENT laws /rules are not followed....so simple its stupid!

    -- Posted by mis on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 12:39 PM
  • Park hours are fine. I like Lintons hrs. 12 am to 4 am it should be closed. 7:30 is too late I agree. But I think Mrs. Pullen was only suggesting a time.

    When it comes to guns, everyone needs to calm down about that suggestion. Saying that the park board is trying to control any of our civil liberties is a joke. They are trying to make the park as safe as possible. If they're worried about any of these kids having guns, that's illegal anyway. So I wonder where this request is coming from. Is there a problem with adults with a gun permit brandishing a firearm in the presense of children. Is someone carrying a shotgun through the park? I need to know what the basis of this is before I make a judgement.

    Maybe someone on the park board can respond.

    -- Posted by instigator474 on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 2:15 PM
  • your local marshal should look at IC 31-37-3-2 and 31-37-3-3. There are laws on the books.

    -- Posted by eastern1 on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 2:57 PM
  • AMEN Rambo!! Very well said!

    If you look at Bloomfield park the only place to walk is along the street..there isnt a trail or anything else that goes through there.

    "As for set hours, he also noted a possible problem when it comes to those who use the park facilities in the early morning hours."

    The only activity that I have heard of that goes on at that park in the wee hours..before school is the "extra curricular" activites that go on in the bathrooms and in the woods behind the school!

    "Number one there is no curfew in Indiana...we're not parents," he said."

    You are right the cops arent the parents but it is pretty obvious the parents dont care so someone needs to step up and be the adult for these kids

    -- Posted by rwkem on Wed, Sep 3, 2008, at 8:23 PM
  • Also remember that even with a permit you can not have a gun on school property. That would include the gravel parking lot by the baseball diamond. It would also include both parking lots on top of the hill. I have also heard that you can not have a gun in a public place if it is within 1000 ft of a school but not sure.

    Looks like on the curfew that the law Indiana had was ruled unconstitutional a few years ago. Seems they have it fixed now. Kenny may not know that it has been fixed.

    Although looking at IC 31-37-3-3.5 Section (b) subsection (4)... It would appear that all that would have to happen is a kids parents write a note saying it was ok for them to be at the park.

    -- Posted by citizen474 on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 1:57 AM
  • I dont think a note from the parents is going to solve the problem. How will they know it is actually from the parents???

    -- Posted by rwkem on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 7:47 PM
  • It all boils down to kids having kids. This is the generation that we are facing! No discipline, no manners, no respect, etc.

    You set more rules and they will set out to disobey them.

    I do agree with the hours that were set by the Linton Park. It does seem at 7:30 is a bit late to open, especially since school starts about a half hour later.

    -- Posted by Country Livin' on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 9:50 PM
  • by the way...

    Will these same rules apply during "APPLE FESTIVAL"?

    As they should!

    -- Posted by Country Livin' on Thu, Sep 4, 2008, at 9:53 PM
  • I used to play basketball after work (at DQ) during the summer. There was usually anywhere from half a dozen to a dozen people playing and watching. It sucks that a handful of kids have to ruin it for everyone.

    -- Posted by corbinsa on Sat, Sep 6, 2008, at 4:09 PM
  • ya'll should come have a picnic in one of the parks up here. be sure ya done by 7 at night cause you can catch a beat down. no joke.

    -- Posted by jamal t on Sun, Sep 7, 2008, at 6:28 PM
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