WRV board hears from parent about her daughter's basketball plans

Thursday, September 4, 2008

SWITZ CITY -- The White River Valley Board of School Trustees met in special session Thursday night to conduct a budget hearing.

Parent Lynn Winniger spoke on behalf of her daughter, a sixth grader at WRV Lyons. She asked the board what decision they had reached regarding her daughter's wish to play basketball at WRV Worthington.

Superintendent Layton Wall spoke for the board and replied, "There are low numbers of students at Lyons this year. We've discussed whether we should combine the programs for larger numbers. The board has decided not to combine programs. We believe your daughter should remain at Lyons to play basketball since she doesn't attend the Worthington school."

Winnegar then asked, "If there aren't enough girls to make up a team, is my daughter just not going to play ball?"

Superintendent Wall answered, "At this point, we think there's enough for a team. If the numbers aren't there, we're going to look at the situation and analyze it. There's no question that we want her to play."

Winnegar commented, "I think this is a shame that the board is taking this avenue."

In other action, the board:

*Accepted the resignation of Matt Hockman as 5th grade Girls' Basketball Coach and hired Mark Graves to fill that position. Hockman will coach the 6th grade girls.

*Accepted the resignation of Gary Frye as 5th grade basketball coach at Worthington.

*Accepted the resignation of Eric Waggoner, 5th grade coach at Lyons.

*Approved the application of Tom Shelton as 5th grade basketball coach.

*Approved an overnight trip to Bloomington for seventh and eighth grade girls for a conference.

*The board approved Laura File to act as mentor to new teacher Amy Jackson and Kim Overman will mentor Elizabeth Evans. There is a two-year mentoring requirement for new teachers. The mentors will receive a $600 stipend.

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  • There aren't even enough 5th graders at Lyons. They are going to have to bring in 4th graders just to have a 5th grade team this year, as they have most of the past few years! I don't understand the problem of bringing both teams together. I think it has a lot to do with it being a girls team. If the boys were in this same situation you can bet something would be done about it. Such a shame!

    -- Posted by wolverine granny on Fri, Sep 5, 2008, at 10:49 AM
  • Can we support the girls without knocking the boys?

    -- Posted by Gene Hall68 on Fri, Sep 5, 2008, at 12:32 PM
  • Take her to Bloomfield, they could use someone with her athletic ability!

    -- Posted by outofthisworld on Fri, Sep 5, 2008, at 1:05 PM
  • wolverine granny is right about not enough girls play and the last two years they have had to beg fourth graders to play. Right now they a sixth grade team with all fifth graders( sound stupid to you?)

    But as they say you cant fix stupid!!!! Maybe the school board should rethink their decision. Last time they went against a parent about the grading scale look what happened.

    Well, Lynn, Hang in there!!!!

    You should know by now that everything rotates around the boys, but I didn't see them going to Sectionals or State lately. Has anyone?

    Combining the two schools would be a great idea, then when they get to 7th grade we don't have all the fighting over my kid is better than your kid!

    -- Posted by motheringreene on Fri, Sep 5, 2008, at 1:28 PM
  • Lynne, as a WRV parent you are learning what we all learn - you can't "think outside the box" and attend WRV. Sorry, it's a painful truth. Kudos to you for trying though.

    -- Posted by legaleagle on Fri, Sep 5, 2008, at 3:27 PM
  • There was school choice this year at WRV Lyons. Any student could have went to Worthington and the school corp. would even provide the transportation. Not everything has to revolve around the basketball team - Boys or Girls. While I agree it would be great to all be at one building, then everyone would compain about which building, or about the cost of their taxes to build a new building.

    -- Posted by wrvmom on Fri, Sep 5, 2008, at 4:34 PM
  • Let's be honest with ourselves. They haven't had any significant athletic success since the merge of all 3 schools. 90'- 94' was the school's prime, and in my opinion, I doubt that kind of nostalgia could ever be repeated. Sports is their main priority, their heartbeat, their oxygen. Boys sports always being the predominant. Noone supports the girls. They didn't back then and I'm sure it won't ever change if it hasn't by now. To have that support really makes a difference. You might get better girl's basketball results if more attended. Some players are probably feeling pretty shunned when they notice the turn out for boys games compared to theirs. Sad world we live in when gender makes a difference. It's the 21st century for Pete's sake. When I was goin' to L&M, I had to go to Worthington to play. THAT WAS IN 1989. I can't believe nothing has been done yet. It just substantiates where their motivations and interests lie.

    -- Posted by FloydtheBarber on Fri, Sep 5, 2008, at 7:22 PM
  • I had a 4th grader that played with Lyons' 5th grade team last year. There were only one or two 5th graders that were on the team. What makes the board think that there will be enough girls to tryout for the 6th grade this year. I'm very much in support of combining the schools to have a respectable team for competition. My vote goes to consolidating. Let's keep our kids playing for US!

    -- Posted by scoop on Fri, Sep 5, 2008, at 8:33 PM
  • I have heard a rumor about no more tuition on the county as of January. I know that is a little late for basketball, but maybe another county school would be a good choice. Sad to have to change schools just so your daughter's athletic talent can shine. Knowing Lynn, academics is also important to her, so lets not jump on that band wagon. Alli Cat is a good kid and athlete, I hope they give her a chance.

    -- Posted by Softball Coach on Mon, Sep 8, 2008, at 9:30 AM
  • Last I knew WRV was ONE school!!!! Whats the problem?? Why in the name of HEAVEN can those girls not be on the same team-that is the only way your going to have enough for a team!!!!!Most of those classes at WRV are smaller than Linton and they even have trouble getting enough kids to play!!! Wake up people!!!

    -- Posted by Goodnite on Mon, Sep 8, 2008, at 8:23 PM
  • Mother2- Exactly!

    -- Posted by Softball Coach on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 6:17 AM
  • Maybe I am missing something but if Lynn is willing to drive her daughter to Worthington for practices and games, why not let her play on the Worthington team. She is assuming all the responsibility. Maybe she likes the coach better, maybe her daughter plays with some of the Worthington girls......whatever. If a parent is willing to "parent" their child and take responsibility.....reward them. So many parents don't even care if their child plays sports or how they do with their classes. So many don't even know what their children are doing with their day. And if your child is on the internet with "Facebook" or "My Space" and you don't have access.....take a look....you will be shocked. I don't know Lynn personally but I applaude her for "trying" to do what she feels is best for her child. When it comes down to it, that's what we all really want. They are our future.

    -- Posted by glad-to-be-WRV on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 9:02 AM
  • Sports situations are a real problem for WRV. Yes, if that parent is willing to drive the child to other school, she should be allowed. I also feel the board needs to address the jr high problem of where the kids play and practice.... boys at Worthington, girls at Lyons. Do they still not realize how huge the district is? Depending on the sex of your child, a parent may be traveling upwards of 20 miles one way just to take a child to practice or a game, if they live on the far end of the district. The district is huge. An extra gym in Switz would remedy that. However, that doesn't address this issue for the girl wanting to play.

    -- Posted by cc on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 9:02 PM
  • I believe parents were given the choice to send their children to Worthington if they chose to do so. Parenting your child does not mean that you teach them that they can do whatever they want. I can't understand the number of people who truly believe the rules should just not apply to them. Yes, the sports should probably be consolidated, and one day they probably will be. But the fact is, right now they are two different schools with two different sports programs. Has anybody stopped to consider that by her playing in Worhington, it would most likely prevent a girl from up there gettting to play? I believe last year, Worthington had enough girls. Sports should not ever be the priority that they have become in schools.

    -- Posted by whiteriverparent on Wed, Sep 10, 2008, at 7:58 AM
  • To Whiteriverparent- sports are a priority. I for one am very prioritized by sports, second to achedemics of course. This is a very important issue that has to be faced head on. Consolidate and the passion and compitition will step up a notch and trickle down to a word called spirit.It may very well be my child that gets bumped, so be it. Bring on the compitition it's worth all the wait.

    -- Posted by scoop on Wed, Sep 10, 2008, at 6:27 PM
  • Whiteriverparent- I hope your child/children are involved with some type of activity at school..be it art, music, sports, whatever. I believe alot of the parents concerns stem from the fact that most students who participate in school activities tend to be more productive and responsible adults. I believe the "sports" parents just want their kids to be successful. I hope you whole heartedly support your kids as these parents do. I know I would not be as good of an adult/parent if I had not commited to sports and activities when I was a kid.

    -- Posted by Softball Coach on Wed, Sep 10, 2008, at 8:02 PM
  • Softball Coach, I am not sure where your comments are coming from. I certainly never said in my post that I didn't think kids should participate in sports. I simply stated that kids need to follow the rules. I am almost certain that this mother was given the option of sending her child to Worthington, as all Lyons parents were. If she chose not to, then why should the rules be bent for her now???? Yes, I believe sports are overrated and I do not believe they should be top priorty. That doesn't mean that I think they should not exist. I do appreciate your concern for my children and I am happy to assure you that they are indeed involved in activities, and even a few sports. Most importantly however, they have been taught their entire lives that there are rules in life and they have to follow them. And I am not sure on the stats, but most of the arrogant athletes I knew in school have in turn become arrogant adults. I am sure this is not always the case, but it is certainly true some of the time. I also am a very productive, responsible adult who chose not to participate in sports as a child. Not sure the two are really connected in any way.

    -- Posted by whiteriverparent on Thu, Sep 11, 2008, at 7:23 AM
  • I was not saying that only sports oriented students turn out to be productive adults. I just believe the kids who participate in "activities" in school tend to stay on track more because they do not have to go looking for things to do. If you would refer to my previous blog- activites do not have to be sports. I do believe that with the obesity rates in this country that sports should be encouraged. However, academics do come first. That has always been my belief. Good Luck Lynn.

    -- Posted by Softball Coach on Thu, Sep 11, 2008, at 9:27 AM
  • Congrats Whiteriverparent, your last two sentences sounds as if you to are an arrogant adult. I fall under the arrogant athlete/adult. I would also like to say that I don't think the consolidation of our 5th and 6th grade girls basketball can be accomplished this year, let's work on it in the next year or two.

    -- Posted by scoop on Fri, Sep 12, 2008, at 9:27 AM
  • Okay little blackbird, i do believe you are wrong about athletic success since the three schools combined. I'm pretty sure that Doug Dayhoff won state in track and he got a FULL ride to IU for track. AJ Graves went to Butler to play. The team he was on went to semi-state twice. Then in 2000-2001 our girls went to STATE! Matt Campbell also won state in pole vault 3 times! So get your facts straight before you go and say things you don't even know about. Thanks

    -- Posted by blue32 on Fri, Sep 12, 2008, at 1:05 PM
  • Very good blue32 Graves' sent 3 ballplayers to butler.Many other success stories as well

    -- Posted by scoop on Fri, Sep 12, 2008, at 2:02 PM
  • softballcoach - it seems as though you must find yourself to be one heck of a human/adult/parent because of sports, I'm sure there are those who might beg to differ.

    I hope your sports experiences have left you with the highest values, morals and respect. I'm sure because of sports you practice doing unto others as you would have others do unto you.

    -- Posted by outofthisworld on Fri, Sep 12, 2008, at 2:48 PM
  • some of you need to grow up. why if your a parent you would want you kid playing 1 game as a 5th grader then have to play another game with one 6th grade girl when they are already wore out. so i guess we are going to bring up 4th graders to releave them to rest so they can play 6th when they are getting there spot taken by a 4th grader.so the way i see it why dont they just let the 4th graders play 5th grade and 5th grade play 6th. but it doesnt take a brain sceintist to figure out it would be much easier just to let her play with her own age at worthington. from want ive seen our school board dont use there brains to much on any matter. also by law they must vote in open session not closed.they always do things there way. they should quit worrying about what parents think and think about the kids.if i have my way there will be changes in the next election for school board

    -- Posted by Wrvmomma on Fri, Sep 12, 2008, at 5:40 PM
  • Rambo- If you knew me, I would hope that you would not have taken my comments the way you did.

    Back to sports, here is just a brief of list of what they helped me learn- responsibility, sportsmanship, time management, communication, respect, leadership, and confidence. I could go on, but I said brief.

    As a coach, I try to instill these same attributes in my team. Sports are not only about the compeitition, but about learning life skills.

    As far as your do unto others comment...Yes, If a player learns to respect their opponent and exhibit true sportsmanship then SPORTS did teach them some of that.

    -- Posted by Softball Coach on Thu, Sep 18, 2008, at 8:08 AM
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