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L-S grading scale committee looking for public input

Friday, January 11, 2013

The Linton-Stockton School Corporation Grading Scale Committee is urging parents and the community to give feedback through a survey available online.

Linton-Stockton High School Principal Nathan Moore explained some students and parents fear the grading scale may leave students seeking scholarships at a disadvantage.

"We are wanting to look at the grading scale and look at research and data to find out what's best for our students. We want to come to a decision that's not just what we (the committee) think is best, but by using this data," Moore stressed.

The Grading Scale Committee consists of a principal, teacher and parent from each of school's buildings.

Moore said the biggest difference of Linton's grading scale is 70 percent is a passing grade, compared to the other four county schools who have a 60 percent pass grade.

"At Linton, the passing score is a 70 percent. We have a higher expectation. Our thought behind this is, if you hold your students at a higher expect, they will perform at a level of your expectation," Moore explained.

He added based on data taken by the Indiana Department of Education, fewer Linton-Stockton graduates have to take remedial courses than the other county schools.

"We want grades to reflect college readiness. If you are used to working hard, then once you get to college or a trade school it will be easier. This is like practice, then you go to the game. You practice, then you go to the game so you can enjoy it," Moore said.

Moore noted while the passing grade is significantly higher at Linton, there is not much of a difference in the A through C grade range.

"People are thinking it's a 10 percent difference in all the grades, but that's not the case. At the other four schools, a C is 73 (percent) and at Linton it is 75. We have a much smaller D range, that is the biggest difference between the two. The D range against other four schools is 60 to 69 (percent). Ours is 70 to 74," Moore said.

Most students set their mind to a certain grade and work at the ability needed to achieve the score, Moore noted. He said many of the scores are just a two percent difference.

"The questions we have are, do we want to lower our expectations to say passing is now a 60? What is the outcome of doing that? What's going to happen? Will that allow more people to pass? Is that the right thing to do?" Moore stressed.

He added many former students have come to him within the last year and said college was much easier than they had anticipated.

"If we hold them to higher expectations now, when they go to college or a trade school, they will already have the experience of putting the extra effort into it," Moore said.

The Grading Scale Committee stressed the importance of not only having all parents take the survey, but members of the community as well.

"You want your students to be productive citizens in the community, which goes back to our vision statement, to graduate productive citizens and life-long learners," Moore said.

Moore also stressed the decision will effect students from kindergarten all the way to grade 12.

"This is not just a high school decision. This is a kindergarten through 12 corporation decision. One of the things we decided, from the superintendent on down, is we wanted our grading scale to be the same through the corporation. We (high school) are the last step before college, so most people look at it as a high school problem," Moore explained.

To take the parent or community survey, visit the school's website at www.lssc.k12.in.us, and click on the high school tab. The survey is located under the announcements.


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I hear people complain about tbe grading scale all the time. Niw, is our chance to change it. I urge all of you to take the time to complete this survey. It only takes a very short time and could be the deciding factor. I have students in the different buildings, and believe me when i say that i can see hiw much it impacts even the younger grades. I believe we are putting our kids are hurting because of this. Why should a student at a neighboring school be able to pass a class and get a credit for that class with a 61 percent, but our students fail and not receive credit with a 69 percent. There is definitely something wrong with that.

-- Posted by mmmmsmom on Sat, Jan 12, 2013, at 8:08 AM

I agree 100% with above! When I was in school I was barely passing and yet someone from J-ville was making a C or B!! Yup it sucks makes the student feel less worthy!! Linton is the HARDEST school around! Yes I agree makes college easier, however makes it harder to get better grades when all it is that the grading scale is too high!

-- Posted by greenecountymom on Sat, Jan 12, 2013, at 8:39 AM

Here's my problem with the grading scale as it is now, and yes, I have turned in my survey. The grading scale is absolutely killing the kids in the middle. The tests (summative assignments) are weighted to a point of insanity. Just for instance (yes, I am the parent of a kid in the middle) my student last grading period received a D in a class. When we averaged his scores from the entire grading period, he had a 96%, but since tests are worth 80% of your grade, and he had one bad day on a test, he was made to feel like he was a bad student. This is ridiculous, when the students' overall work through a grading period isn't really a consideration.

The real problem here really isn't the grading scale (while it is certainly a contributing factor), the biggest problem in my eyes is the weighting of the summative and formative assignments. If all things were even, we could certainly see what a child's overall progress is through the grading period.

In my humble opinion, with no real offense to the members of the committee, the committee is a farce. The parent members that are represented on the committee are parents of kids who are in the upper part of their classes, not the kids in the middle. I'm not saying that those kids don't work hard to get the grades they get, I know they do, but they do not represent the majority of the students within the school that this would effect. Without trying to lump kids into a "class", the kids who are A students year after year and the kids who are F students year after year, usually doesn't change too much. It's the kids in the middle we need to look at. Those kids may not go to college, they may go to a trade school, they may go straight to the workforce, they may go to the military, they may do a lot of things other than go to a four year college and the reality is, the students going to a four year college are the minority in our community, and by not changing these scales, it will continue to be this way, because the kids in the middle don't think they are good enough, because their grades in high school reflected that!

I beg this community to take this survey, talk to your school board members and get this system changed to represent the total work that our students put in during an entire grading period, not just a representation of just a few days. It really doesn't matter what they do to the grading scale if the 80/20 weighting of summative/formative assignments isn't eliminated! Let get back to the 100-60 scale that represents all area schools and eliminate the 80/20 system. If a teacher feels that a certain test is so important that it should represent a higher portion of a child's grade, they can make it worth more points!

-- Posted by airmedic39 on Sat, Jan 12, 2013, at 11:01 AM

airmedic39...You made some great points! The weighted tests are hurting many. Homework almost seems not worth the time.

-- Posted by jkwalker on Sat, Jan 12, 2013, at 6:43 PM

The scale needs to b lowered so our kids r on the same as others.

-- Posted by linton_resident on Sat, Jan 12, 2013, at 10:02 PM

Bloomfield Elem. has F 0-64% D- 65-66% D 67-69% D+ 70-73% C- 74-76% C 77-81% C+ 82-84% B-85-86% B 87-90% B+91-93% A-94-96% A 97-100%. Bloomfield Jr/Sr.High has the cut off at 60% for an F. I have also had the same problem with test scores at BES. All math homework will not help the one bad test score. I would like to see that all teachers have the same amout of grades go into the grade book for that grading period. Some teachers may take grades on 25 papers and others may only take 12. That hurts the kids score by being on the low number of grades,if you have one bad test score. I think every school should be the same on grading scale. Then every teacher should have the same amount of grades put in the grade book for that grading period for that subject. That way its equal to all the grade level subjects. Just a thought!

-- Posted by taylorbound on Sun, Jan 13, 2013, at 10:41 AM

Im a Greene County Native as well as my husband. We live out of state because he is in the Marine Corps. We have 4 daughters in the same elementary here and passing is 76% so 75% and below is failing. My nieces attend Linton and I honestly feel so bad for them at their ages to have the amount of homework they do. Every teacher, school, and surrounding areas being on totally different pages is setting them up for a whole bunch of stress and failure. We have made the decision to return back to Indiana when his contract is up. The one and only thing keeping us from Greene County is the schools and that breaks my heart and isn't a decision we wanted.

-- Posted by Tera on Tue, Jan 15, 2013, at 10:25 AM


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