Eastern-Greene parents seek more time on the field for youth football

Monday, August 30, 2010

SOLSBERRY -- A decision to nick off several youth league kick-offs had parents ticked off at Eastern Greene School Corp. Monday. About 150 Community Football League supporters rallied during the trustees meeting to expand the games allowed the league on the revamped school football field.

Parents believe the school system fumbled a chance to develop future gridiron stars by limiting the games their squads can play this season.

However, another 'Hail Mary' pass at the problem might yet save some of the scuttled games. Eastern Greene School Board President Lane Corbin and other trustees will meet with league officers in an effort to work out a compromise, though a date had not been determined yet by Monday's session.

"Maybe we can work something out that we all can live with," Corbin said.

Time is of the essence, however, League President Duane Long said, as the league's season begins a week from Saturday.

The decision to limit league play on the new school field cut the available dates solely to Saturdays, establishing only five days when the youth league composed of players 14 and under could hold games.

That limit came due to new sod on the field which administrators feared would be damaged by excessive play.

The $40,000 resodding of the school's football field was expected to limit play to varsity teams in August, Mungle said in July, adding that little play shouldn't cause damage to the new turf.

Funds for the work came from money remaining in the new high school's building fund, which still has about $230,000 remaining, the record shows.

"We can play on it in August, but we are going to definitely have to limit the games," Mungle announced during the board's July session.

The limits, imposed after Long established the season, would cut games by the younger, grade school players. It also offended parents who had initially agreed to pay $5 per child, a rate later switched to $100 total a day, or $25 a game.

"We were not told of any limits when we made that agreement," Long said, adding that if the limits remain in place younger players will be forced to travel long distances to games elsewhere.

The changes, Long said, pose problems for families like his, for the coach has two sons playing in the league, one older and one younger.

"You'll be splitting up families," Long said. "They can't be both places at once."

However, Superintendent Ty Mungle noted the community football league actually is allowed more games on the field than the school football team.

Long criticized Mungle as not supporting the league, leading Corbin to urge him to avoid personal attacks.

Mungle, meanwhile, said he supports the league and framed the issue in terms of a tough financial picture.

"We made a decision, partly because of liability issues, the condition that the field was in," he said. "We want the field to be better. Historically, Eastern Greene has not hosted Indiana High School Athletic Association Events. We want a field and a school facility our athletes can compete on in those events and be proud of."

Under the present schedule, the school limits high school games to a dozen this season. Comparatively, the youth football league is allowed five days of four games each, amounting to 20 total.

"Who cares?" said Michael Morguson, who played four years at Eastern Greene then went on to serve as student manager for Indiana University's Hoosiers. Morguson, now an appraiser, assists with the league, and said it will take at least four years to build a competitive squad.

Noting the Thunderbirds kept pace with third-ranked Linton for a single quarter, "then they got gassed," because they were forced to play both offense and defense. Morguson said developing interest early among grade schoolers is key to eventually fielding enough players to have a 40-man squad.

"It's not about today; it's about the future," Morguson said. "In five years, wouldn't you like to see Eastern Greene ranked at the state level? What kind of press, prestige, notoriety, fame and fortune do you think Linton has right now?"

Incoming board member Mike Adams Jr., who assists with the league and who will take office in January, concurred.

"Our middle school program's struggled with the numbers," he said. "Increasing those numbers is what we need."

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  • One hundred and fifty people at a school board meeting is fantastic except for the fact it was because of a sport instead of education. I wish people would get that worked up about educational issues.

    -- Posted by happyperson on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 6:20 AM
  • Happyperson - I'm not surprised. This is one of the things wrong with the American People today. People care more about sport than education. If schools need more money, they should cut their sports programs. Unfortunately, sports are the 'sacred cow' of Indiana's government schools.

    While the Republic burns, we all play our fiddles...

    -- Posted by For Liberty on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 8:39 AM
  • First you have to get good grades to be able to play sports. Second I believe sports keeps kids healthy and active. Thirdly it keeps kids out of trouble and busy. Sports can teach you qualities of real life that you can't learn in a text book. (How to get along, how to work together ect)

    Sports bring money into the schools. Money brought into the schools benefit the children.

    Don't get me wrong my sister is a teacher and education is number one in my family. Your grades are not up to MY standards you don't play! Homework not turned in, you don't play.

    I think the school board needs to step in and understand and see the full picture. Little kids are not going to tear up the field and Ty went back on what he originally agreed AFTER the schedule was made.

    Don't make the innocent children suffer over a turf war! (or should I say sod war?)

    -- Posted by Greene County Mom on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM
  • "fame and fortune"? That made me laugh.

    -- Posted by instigator474 on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 9:00 AM
  • Totally agreed Greene County Mom. :) Sports makes for better students! If not, then they don't play, period!

    -- Posted by Hoosierxheart71 on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 11:41 AM
  • How many of the youth league coaches attend varsity and j.v. practices to learn how to teach proper fundamentals. Most youth league coaches are not interested in developing football players for the future. Instead, they play their biggest strongest kid more than anyone else to try to "win" as many games as possible Eastern Greene has cut kids in their Junior High basketball program for years. At this young age, you can't tell how many kids are going to end being players. Instead, they run off kids who might end up being players to try to win as many junior high games as possible. Last year's Eastern Greene varsity boy's team another example of a "flame out" at sectional time. Maybe if Eastern Greene would have kept some of the young kids cut in Junior High they would have won the sectional.

    -- Posted by Happy Gilmore on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 12:03 PM
  • Well I know my husband has attended coach's clinics in Indianapolis and I know he has contacted the Varsity Coaches to get them to come to practice with the younger kids. He has also had contact with the other coaches. Some coaches just don't care about what is coming they care what they have NOW Happy Gilmore.

    I think Coach Dean needs to play ALL the players and give them a chance to build their skills. Not just wear out the really good ones. When Linton blew us out of the water, did he play players that could have had a chance to get the experience and become better players?????? I don't have a player on the team, just what I saw sitting in the stands.

    -- Posted by Greene County Mom on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 1:43 PM
  • It has been my experience at Eastern that you only have to get a passing grade to play a sport. So the students only need to strive for bare minimum to play. What does that tell you about how education is ranked on the scale?

    In my day you had to maintain at least a "C" average to play. Anything lower and you didn't even get to dress in uniform.

    BTW, my g-daughter "played" T-ball this year at Eastern. For $100 she got to practice 5-6 times and got a t-shirt. That was it...no games. What a rip!

    -- Posted by mrtwig on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 4:54 PM
  • Greene County Mom~I think Coach Dean does a GREAT job. Most of the kids on the sidelines are JV,and they have their own games.

    -- Posted by Concernedingc on Wed, Sep 1, 2010, at 6:12 AM
  • Concerndigc, hum really???? Not what I have heard or seen. We must be talking about two different teams and two different Coach Deans. Also seen a lot of kids quit football because of no playing time... and not talking jv either. Play them all is what I am saying if you are getting the living daylights beat out of ya! What harm can be done...NOTHING. What good... LOTS!

    -- Posted by Greene County Mom on Wed, Sep 1, 2010, at 11:18 AM
  • Well, for those of you that state we don't care about our children's education, we do. We support our community league but it's a known fact that parents use these things as an incentive for their children to succeed at school not only on a field or court but in the classroom. Have you ever heard of a high school allowing a student to play that has low marks? No you haven't. We want our kids to excel at school, and allowing children to participate in sports only if they can do well. Having children participate in extra cirricular activities promotes discipline, guidenence and productivity, do the research people. Before you think we don't care about our children's marks in the classroom!

    -- Posted by Beclear on Wed, Sep 1, 2010, at 1:51 PM
  • Why are we fixing something that is nearly brand new? I understand how bad the field was pryor to fixing it, but why don't we try doing things right the first time? Also, does anyone know anything about the new shelter house? What is the purpose of that? Maybe it has some significance, not sure.

    -- Posted by tbirdfan on Mon, Sep 6, 2010, at 6:38 PM
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